Our Big Mistake?


As Christians:

Our Biggest Mistake is that we've put the nuclear family ahead of the body of Christ (in terms of importance).

This is a quote of my rommate Michael in a 2 hour long conversation/rant/debate that we had recently alongside our other roommate Joash.

It's kind of a serious idea and I don't mean to offend anybody off the back. And if you're one of the many commenters who has a nuclear family and they are clearly the most important thing to you, please don't think I'm saying that it shouldn't be that way. In fact, I'm not convinced that it shouldn't, but when Michael put it this way it kind of caught me by surprise.

The conversation we were having started with one of us saying that the most important thing for a Christian to do in this world is to procreate, i.e. to have kids and extend the faith as well as his or her life and legacy.

It was said to spark discussion and also because this type of thinking is very predominate in Christianity today.

I made the first statement and my roommate Joash agreed with the statement (although I was saying it to be incindiary). Michael disagreed and the three of us proceeded to talk about the merits and responsibility of Christians to have children and make family a huge priority in life.

Michael pointed out that there's nothing wrong with starting a family but that our obsession with it isn't necessarily Biblical or genetic but rather a disposition stemming from years of cultural conditioning.

He argued that focusing on procreation may not be God's will for some, and can take away our ability to properly love others, i.e. orphans, widows, brothers and sisters in the church, and so on.

Joash responded that God has made us this way for a reason, and that it's both genetic and providential for us to respond to God in this natural way. Or to say it another way, "He made us this way for a reason."

I like Joash's argument, but I also like the way Michael phrased his point so eloquently in the quote above. I think its profound and perhaps there's merit to it. Hopefully you can educate us more, from either a Christian or a not Christian perspective. – dan.

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nice usage of the word, “incindiary”!

good debate. paul says it is better to not marry … thus meaning that a nuclear family would not be possible (unless you are promiscuous and have many a love child), save your birth parents and siblings that you may have. however, once you grow and mature enough to leave the house (not sure if i’m this point in my life, hence why i married an incredible woman to take care of me at home), you will eventually leave and cleave to someone or something else (spouse, vocation, ministry, etc.)

yes, the nuclear family does take away from ministering to the body of christ, but ministering to the body of christ, also takes away from ministering to those who are sick and need jesus.

though paul does say it is better to not marry, you would be quite hard pressed to find anywhere in scripture that discusses the fact that one should not marry (i.e., it doesn’t exist). marriage is brilliant, but i can say that since i married katie, my ministry involvement has been drastically reduced. once i have kids, i can only imagine what it will look like.

when the 2.5 kids come and the house with the white picket fence is purchased, hopefullly my life lived in front of my wife, my kids, and my neighbors, will minister to all those within sptting distance.

is not our life supposed to be the good news of salvation? are we not to proclaim the joy of our salvation by way of our actions? why, then is there such a stink made when someone says that they can’t help out at the every other night church potluck due to the fact that their four year old child has a school play they are in as a rock?

though probably not a very popular idea, and one that probably isn’t backed up by any scriptural theologically divne statements, i would argue that once married our priorites should be as follows:

1. god (obvious)
2. family
3. non-believers
4. body of christ

i may get shot for saying that, but jesus came to seek and save, not the well, but the sick. true, we must be surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses, but we are also called to go and make disciples of all nations. i believe that that means i must start at home. abraham did and out of him came a heritage greater than the stars in the sky and the sand on the shore.

wow … that was long. you know on pardon the interruption when the dude reads the scorecard of things mispoken or omitted? now it’s time for all y’all reading this to point out my mistakes. still, though, i’m having kids and putting their priorities first. then i’ll think about volunterring in the nursery.

three words: ed beth hohberg.

This is something Dan and I have talked a lot about. We’ve made a point to include Carter in our ministry as much as possible… but I also think you have phases in your life where you have to take a step back from things you used to be able to do. A woman at our church retreat last year said it well when she explained that her kids are a part of the Church body. She said she was taking a step back from her normal duties to serve her family at home.

(Jeff, you nailed me in that last paragraph – that’s so funny. Presently, nursery duty is the only area of ministry I am involved with in the church body! Ha! That’s literally all I can fit in at this time in my life, although there are a couple of other areas I want to be a part of.)

As far as priorities go, my pastor always talks about the “hub” – it’s important to have clear priorities – the center (God) and outer layers.

I totally agree that a single, childless person (as some are indeed Called and Gifted) has a greater ability to minister within the church and to the lost. That’s because, for those who marry (kids or no kids), the family should be second to God. Having a family doesn’t “reduce” one’s ministry; it does shift it. Being a committed and loving spouse, teaching, loving, and providing for our children IS MINISTRY. As a side benefit, we witness to others by the example of our families.

I lean toward switching Jeff’s 3 and 4 and believe the Body is the next layer of the “hub.” Love and unity in the Body is a foundation for our ministry to unbelievers. How can we love people in the world if we do not first love our brothers in Christ?

We are all called to spread the Gospel. This is our mission in life! I just don’t see how we can be effective in this area without having those inner layers of importance first.

Anyway, that’s my $.02.

/Reali chimes in

Jeff, I think you could make a Biblical argument for Annie’s switching of #3 and #4 from John 13:34-35 and Galatians 6:10:

Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers

-dan

p.s. nice responses.

on pti, the loud mouths sometime try to rebut their mistakes; however, in one of my classes last term, we were only allowed to say thank you when we were given constructive criticisms. thank you.

dan and annie have a point … worth much more than a measly $.02. the fact that dan backed it up w/ the word. you can’t fight that. good then. numbers 3 and 4 officially switched.

just got back from a community meeting for all apu staff/faculty and someone said that it is when we are removed from christian community (or we remove ourselves) that real problems take place … fill in the blank of what those ‘real problems’ may be.

touche, touche.

(.01 cent) The ranking I think demonstrates the linear priorities of western thinking. You cannot get a clean and neat ranking from scripture. Many times we think that time spent in churchish programs or ministry opportunities equals effectiveness and time spent in ministry. This demeans and narrows the realm of ministry, which is all of life. The moment we call one thing ministry and the other “familytime” or “not ministry time” we lose sight that the gospel (ministry) extends to every area of our lives.
Now there are issues of stewardship and responsibility in terms of where time is spent, but we must not pit “ministry” verses other areas of our life, we must pit the call, to love the Lord our God with all of our soul, heart, and mind, against the way we live our life according to the grace Christ has given us.

uhh not poo-er but poorer as in not the better half

Dan, you sure know how to spark a fiery debate! I’ve been thinking about this issue for while, and unfortunately what makes this issue so hard is that people who are single or married each come at it with their own hurts – especially if they would rather fit into the other group. One thing that I’ve come across in my reading is that it was revolutionary for Jesus to offer that single people could become part of a family because of their faith stance instead of blood lines or a business deal (ie. slavery) so to offer both the option of singleness (especially for the sake of ministry) or marriage for love (witnessing to the love of Christ for the church) provides an alternative to the idea that marriage and procreation were not only the way God made us, but also a way of invoking God’s blessing on our lives. The provision of the choice between marriage or singleness offered by Jesus (see Matthew 19:10-12) is not only a corrective to say that we shouldn’t marry just because God made us that way, but actually increases the value and purpose of each option because there is a choice.